Self-delusion: a proof of concept
And Jesus … that he kept saying it. We heard it over and over. But it works, it’s really cool.
So just go out there and do what other people want and the thing that you want will just flood into you. Your cup overflows. I checked in the Bible… He says that when he is talking about this. Your Cheerios will overflow. [laughter]. Your cup will overflow, he says. You will get double, triple, ten times, he is talking … Jesus talks about, he says, sevenfold, tenfold, fiftyfold in return, you get back. And it’s really true and it just dawn on me after thirty years of studying, you know. It really works, it really, really works. Pay attention to what other people need in your relationship. Pay attention to what other couples need, serve them, help them, concentrate on them. Everything you want will flood back to you. It’s so cool and it works. Okay. All right.
CM: Now, how can I go home and put… strawberries on the Cheerios after this? Don’t you think that’s a little bit manipulative? [laughter] Like if you are going to say anything about the strawberries for years [laughter] and then suddenly in the middle of the talk full of, how many people are here, like two, three, four hundred people, [laughs] [laughter] …
GMR: I told you it works.
CM: It worked. I will be working on getting the strawberries back for the next couple of years. [laughs] [laughter]. I will feed him bowls of cereals by themselves…
Perhaps only the self-deluded would think that his karmic management worked because it clearly hadn’t: seven years into their secret marriage, Geshe Michael still failed to get rid of the strawberries and decided to try a different approach; but rather than communicating his preference to his wife in private, he guilted her in front of hundreds of students. This tactic which McNally considered manipulative immediately got him his wish. If she went through with her promise, she in turn would not get to eat the way she wanted, and he would start getting served strawberry-free Cheerios for four glorious years — until their “spiritual partnership” ended in 2009; the marriage dissolved in 2010.
It is regrettable that Geshe Michael, who claimed to be an Arya Bodhisattva, is so mistaken about basic teachings on karma. Although he claimed that McNally was a tantric Buddha, it’s obvious that she couldn’t read his mind in all those years. Given that the “holy” couple had vowed to always stay within 15 feet of each other, it is not clear why they parted; perhaps the seeds of their undoing were planted in their shared bowl of Cheerios.
Ten years later, Geshe Michael still insists that his karmic management method is a win-win solution:
Now we are giving you the secret to taking control of the process so that you can have anything you want — and in this system, everybody wins.” 3/2015
We are recommending that you use the only approach that offers 100% guarantee of working to solve problems and achieve goals — to understand the seeds that will bring the result, and then systematically plant them.” 4/2015
Let’s stop doing things that don’t work. Let’s focus our time and energy on the one thing that works 100% of the time. In this system, our chance of success is: 100%.” 5/2015
Note: Doctrinal explanations for the failure of his karmic management are presented in:
1) “Coffee meditation” and the 4-step method Can his method possibly work?
2) “Play the odds”: selfless or self-serving? How is his method of giving different from teachings by Buddhist masters?
Related post: Blatant dishonesty, blind devotion, and breathtaking delusions How successful are Geshe Michael and his top students?
Editor’s note: We challenge the Diamond Cutter Institute to not delete the above quotes from their Facebook page. Geshe Michael’s organizations frequently remove videos and other content that have been questioned on this blog. Geshe Michael’s and Christie McNally’s lectures on “Spiritual Partners” have been removed from his main teaching site TheKnowledgeBase.com. If what Geshe Michael teaches is timeless wisdom, why was the removal necessary?
whats wrong with this? this is a pretty standard presentation of karmic cause and effect
No, you need to check out what Tibetan masters actually teach about karma and generosity. In any case, his method didn’t work as advertised, did it?
I would like some advice please. I have just finished reading The Diamond Cutter and was impressed by much of it. I am sitting here researching a little and looking at stuff on The Diamond Cutter website, and have just come across your blog and this article.
I have a strong interest in Buddhism but am not even close to understanding much of the philosophy, but The Diamond Cutter seemed to speak to me.
In your opinion, would I be wasting my time in attempting to put into practice the principles outlined in the book? There are many excellent examples of different kinds of success and fulfillment at the end of it, and these, in particular, inspired me. Is this all one big scam? I am confused by it all now and horrified at what I am reading here on this blog about the authors.
Many thanks for your kind consideration.
Steve Gooch
Dear Steve, please read through the 10 cases in the “Fact check” article, the answer should be clear. It’s a good idea to practice kindness and generosity regardless of whether good things will come to you in this life or another life. The forums listed on the Resources page are helpful, /r/buddhism is a good starting point to address most of your questions.